places I demolished in Cowdenbeath

by Just Jock

I worked with old Tam Docherty of Cowdenbeath a building contractor along with Clarence Williams in early 1960s,Clarence was the first west Indian I had ever met ,he was a great guy and known to everyone as "Larry", him and Tam employed me to demolish the miners rows at Kirkford, niether of them could stand heights and as It didnt bother me so I got the job ,, the Miners rows ran along the right side of main road from Kelty to Crossgates just at top of Kirkford road,

I was a young teenager and thought the job was great as it helped me get interests in local history which I have always been interested in,the next place we demolished was the Black Watch club which was at rear of the old DHSS buildings which were just old military barracks for the home guard ,,Cowdenbeath section of Black Watch cadets also used the building we eventually demolished that building also,,next was the Prefabs which you reached along the railway crossing near Marys Cafe,

Im sure many will remember Marys it was a great haunt for housewives down the street doing their Groceries,there was around a dozen prefabs that was a scary job I had to crawl inside the roof from the top to unbolt the alloy roof as I lay there I would feel rats running accross my body,was I glad when that job was fininshed,, whilst waiting for another job appearing.

 I then started with William Geddes another demolishing company, he employed me to demolish the concrete air raid shelters that were standing around every council house back garden in top end of Cowdenbeath especially area at rear of Technical college

It was hard work doing them but after found a routine for doing them they caused no problems all you had to use was a 14lb mash hammer and a pinchbar and a lorry jack
Im sure many tenants remember stopping me for a cuppa tea, it sure was heavy and hot work, you had to open a gap near roof on wall and place jack in the space so you jacked up roof, and then climbed up and smashed the reinforced concrete roof about 6" thick so that hammer swung like a birling wheel,after roof you had jack between door gap and pushed walls out it was just pure hard work,and lucky to do 2 a day,
sadly couldnt get many who wanted a job at it,

The next part of Cowdenbeath to get done was up Stenhouse street both sides of the street from just above the mission hall <I remember on right hand side there was a sweet shop accross from first houses we demolished, we spent more time in there buying irn bru and sweets,after Stenhouse street I demolished miners houses at Chapel Street that was miners houses up behind the football park.there was many old places in Cowdenbeath demolished,

 The last place I remember doing was the old cafe at the Junction it was on same side of road where the tyre place stood,why I remember there  was we were digging out electric cables and were assured the power was cut off and as my axe hit the cable next I knew I was flying through air and collapsed against a wall, the SSEB hadnt put the power off the correct house,, I was off work for about a week with burnt hand..the next houses we done after that was up at the old Raith club,,after the carry on with the electric cable I was rather wary of demolishing houses that hadnt been started on,,

So I had a try at digging peat at Graypark, jings thought air raid shelters was hard work, nothing like digging peat,at Graypark Peat company, can remember my two days there quite well, you were paid £5 to dig out 8chains in length and 4ft deep 3ft wide, that was hardest job I had, no wonder they were anxious for workers, and no wonder many didnt last half a day.I bet many people from Cowdenbeath remembers working there. great thing I remember about Cowdenbeath Youth employment was the famous Jim Lieshman worked in there think that was when he was young himself. My next job was due to a pals from Cowdenbeath and that was at British Railway Motive Power Dunfermline, and the people I remember from Cowdenbeath then was Alex "Eck" Lee's, Big Tam Adamson,who worked on railway with me, My first girl friends came from Cowdenbeath there name's were Rosemary Millar,Matilda Williams,(larrys daughter) both were beautiful girls,and probably grew into beautiful women,things we remember when young.I hope my memories have rattled a few of your memories,I spent a lot of time in Cowdenbeath bought my Teddy boy suits from Edwards and when desperate John Colliers,thankfully wasnt desperate often,The dearest shop I remember in Cowdenbeath then was Addisons just near the railway station.and best shop for working clothes was Sharps the large store, of course reason I liked there was my grandfather and Old Sharp the owner were good pals,I remember visiting his house it was a large mansion up Kirford road on the right up upon the hill.then there was the wellknown Palais de dance ,,who remembers the Palais many Im sure, or what about the dark dingy picture house at railway crossing next to Marys cafe what was that cinema called again.the name I faintly remember,, wasnt it "Slories"
you had to walk down an alley to it.I think they eventually built a drinking club there.

Places I remember as years passed was The Orange Club,The secondhand stores at Fountain inside an old church,Fogos The gravestone sculptors top end of Cowdenbeath, accross from the Music shop.
Lizars Camera shop,The Pet shop,Masons the bakers shop,well thats it started lets see what your memories are like.


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Alex Dow says

Afternoon John

 

That makes very interesting reading.

I have been trying to find out if there was ever a location in Cowdenbeat called "Cornfield PLace"; and have yet to find the name of the short, dead-end street, that projected off Foulford Road in to the fields that became the present Beath High Playing Fields.

There is the possibility that you or your colleagues demolished those houses in the early 1960s, prior to the building of the 1964 Beath High School.

Almost opposite Prospect Street.

 

Thanks for your memories,

Alex Dow

Alistair Allcroft says

Hi John,

Hello from o'er the border! 

Sounds, from what you describe, like you demolished my Grandfather's (Bob Brownlie) house on Pit Row in Kirkford, which sat on the Old Perth Road at the top of Foulford Road.

Next to the southern end of this Row was the road that led up to Kirkford Pit where we used to play on the bings as bairns. Used to ask the miners coming off shift 'Dae ye hae ony pit pieces, mister?' 

Alistair Allcroft says

Hello Alex,

I lived in Mungall Street, Kirkford for a couple of years during the 1950's and I know exactly the street you are talking about that ran off Foulford Road, near Prospect Street but NO , canna remember the name.

There was a football pitch at the end of this street...no grass, just the surface of grey/black slag from the old bings.  I mind this well because, as a lad, I was stood by the goal watching a game when someone took a shot at goal and missed.  I got hit in the head with a quite wet, old leather football travelling at high speed .....and that's my reason for being daft to this day!

Any of the auld lot that played football may have played here and be able to tell you the name of the street.  

Just Jock says

Did anyone remember going to pits when a youngster and offering to carry home or deliver the miners clothes to get washed that was only time they were taken home just at summer holidays and Christmas and new year.

I used to have a guider and Id pile as many sandbags o clothes as I could get in it all labelled where they were to go,and there wifeys wid tak the bags and asked where husband was I wid just shake head dont know hohoho they wid be in a pub,.....or other times sneak down to pitheads and watch miners hide their cigarettes so they could get a smoke when coming up the pit after their shift, we would watch others taking them.....

I used to work on the shows when they came to Cowdenbeath they went up the park behind the hill where monument stands,was never a large lot sometimes it was Robert Brothers Circus,and Id work with them feeding and water to animals,If i remember the shows were by Johnny White of Portobello after Cowdenbeath we wid do Kelty Gala and then we would then go to Inverurie in Aberdeenshire,, aye they were the days.

charlotte miller says

i remember most of the shops in the quiz and i can remember mathers on bridge street it was a hardware shop and i used to go there for my uncle dods carbine for his lamps down from there was mrs grays we used to go there and buy penny fanta i laugh at it now as it was only coloured water.plus we would get a penny dainty(toffee)it would last us ages.and i remember the pit peeces jam and cheese they were the bee's knees

Alistair Allcroft says

Hello Charlotte,

You writing about buying carbide for the lamps reminds me of what we used to do with it as lads. We would get a glass lemonade bottle, put some carbide bits into it, add some water and screw on the top.! Next we would throw that into the pond at the auld rubbish dump that, in the 1950's, used to be off Broad Street, near Woodend.  This where Copeland Crescent and Rae Street are now.

When the gas from the carbide got up enough pressure the bottle would explode like a bomb!

Great fun...wee monsters we were!

Just Jock says

GOT MANY A TROUT OUT THE NETHERTON BURN DOING THAT HOHOHO ANYONE GOT ANY CARBIDE WE CAN GO FISHING.

Lorraine Hayes says

My grand father was born in Union Rd Cowdenbeath in 1907 have the old miners houses in that street been demolished?

Alex Dow says

Afternoon Lorraine

 

I suspect you mean Union STREET rather than Road.

There is quite a mixture of houses along it now, basically from the 1920s or 1930s, to some very recent builds, apart from the first part from the High Street to the small tunnel under the railway station.

In the latter section on the south side is the red sandstone former main Post Office converted to houses. On the north side directly opposite is the former Methofist(?) Hall again converted to two houses. Just east against the railway embankment is the 1960s former Fire Station, which replaced the (probable) original in Station Road with its former Air Raid Siren to call out the Retained Firemen. The present station is along Lumphinans Road at Lochgelly. The 1960s building was occupied for a long time by "Name Droppers" embroidering names on clothing and tapes; but it appears to be closed down.

I think that it is unlikely that your grandfather's original home still exists.

An easy way for you to see recent views is to either Download and Install Google Earth or to access Google Street View.

Then you can "walk along" the street and see for yourself.

Late 19th and 20th century maps can be found on Old Maps-

www.old-maps.co.uk

Although not photos etc, they will give you a better idea of the likely house style back in 1907 - probably "Miners' Rows".

Generally all of those have disappeared in the 1920s and 1930s from Cowdenbeath, being repaced by Coal Company cottages and council housing.

Union Street has obviously been transformed with the 1980s sales of council housing whiilst what can be done to the coal company houses can be seen particularly on the north/school side of Foulford Road towards irs junction with Old Perth Road.

 

Anne Akers says

I was absolutely amazed to stumble on this site and to read that you were one of the people the demolished Mungoll Street. I spent my first few years of life there at number 24. I was sorry to see it gone on my first trip back to my beautiful Scotland, but alas progress must happen. I love visiting Cowdenbeath every time I return to Scotland for a holiday and i still have a very good friend that lives in Cowdenbeath. Alas all my relatives have moved away or passed on. Thank you for the sad but lovely memory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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